Q: Dr. Hawass, during many years you have been the image of modern Egyptology. Why are you leaving now?
A: “I am leaving because of three important reasons. The first reason is that, during the Revolution of January 25th the Egyptian Army protected the antiquity sites. And they protected Cairo Museum. But in the last 10 days the Army left. Actually, they have other tasks to do. Those who are now in charge of the protection of the antiquity sites are the Tourist Police. But there is no Tourist Police to protect the sites. Therefore, what happens? Egyptian criminals, thieves (you know, in every Revolution bad people always appear…), began to destruct tombs. They stole a tomb at Saqqara (the tomb of Hetepka) another tomb at Abu Sir (the tomb of Ptahshepses), another tomb at Giza. They attacked a storage magazine at Saqqara, they opened all the storage magazines. We don’t know how many artefacts are missing. They opened 2 storage magazines at Giza. One tomb dated 19th Dynasty, actually it is only one in the Delta. It was destructed, at Ismailiya. A store at El-Qantara-east has been broken and they took antiquities. They began to build houses, they began to excavate at night, everywhere. I had to write a report and to send it to the Director of UNESCO. That’s why at the Egyptian cabinet, yesterday, I had my speech and I said: “I cannot stay in Egypt and see antiquities being stolen, and I cannot do anything”. This is not me! I have been always fighting to return artefacts. I did fight Ahmed Ezz, the man in the Parliament, who was the most powerful man: he wanted antiquities to be sold in Egypt.
The second reason: crooks in the Antiquities Department. There are two of them… They have been accused of stealing antiquities. They have been accused of doing illegal things, all the time… Their files talk about this. A third person was a professor at the University who stayed almost 6 years as Antiquities Director, and he never did anything. As a corrupt man, he even signed for a rich lady from an Arab country to take manuscripts out of Egypt. These 3 people brought kids against me, to shout that they need jobs. I cannot give a job to everyone… They began to say in Egypt that I am stealing antiquities. How? How a man who gave his life to antiquities can steal antiquities? Therefore, I found that if I stay for six months from now in Antiquities, I will never be able to protect antiquities and I’ll never be able to work during this mess… During all my life, I have been excavating, discovering, writing books, giving lectures all over the world. Actually, I am responsible for bringing many tourists to Egypt, because of all the activities that I did. But, at the same time, now I cannot do this! Therefore, I decided to resign”.
Some controversy has swirled in the Western press over Hawass's resignation, first reported Thursday by the New York Times. In a note emailed to USA TODAY on Saturday, Hawass confirmed his resignation from his recently-named post heading Egypt's antiquities ministry. Excerpts from his note follow:
Yes, it is true. I resigned because of three main things:
1. During the earlier protests, Egyptian youths and the police protected the museums and monuments. Only the Egyptian Museum in Cairo was broken into and, thank God, all the important objects inside it were safe and only a few things were lost or broken. A report of exactly what is missing is still being compiled, however. Magazines were looted, but after initially appearing to get back to normal, the situation has recently become worse and there are many reports of thefts and illegal excavation.
2. Since the revolution, many people have continued to protest over other things, such as against me over jobs and salaries. Unfortunately, it is not possible to provide everything that everyone is asking for. In the Ministry of State for Antiquities, we need money to protect sites and to restore buildings and objects too. We need the money brought in by tourists who visit our sites and museums to fund these things and, at the moment, there are no tourists.
3. Crooks in the Ministry and at the University of Cairo have started to attack me personally. I cannot stand this!
Most importantly, however, is that there are not enough police to protect the sites. I hope that my resignation will put pressure on the government to do something about this and also encourage the international community to do so as well.
The Egyptian antiquities that are on tour at the moment are safe and kept so with contracts. They are completely safe and when the police are back in force, everything here will be protected properly again too.
Egyptian newspapers yesterday widely quoted the fedora-wearing TV personality saying he was not willing to participate in the government of Essam Sharaf, named as the new Prime Minister by the military on Thursday, after the Mubarak-appointed Ahmed Shafiq resigned.
Dr Hawass told the Al-Masry-Al-Youm newspaper: "I will not return to the ministry again. During my life, I have never felt weak until the period which I assumed my position in the Ministry of Antiquities."
His statements appear to contradict an interview with The Independent last month, when he insisted Egypt was fully able to look after its treasures, which include the tombs in the Valley of the Kings, the pyramids of Giza and the Pharaonic treasures at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.
Egypt is putting together its first post-revolutionary government, but Zahi Hawass will not be a part of it. The crusading Egyptologist and antiquities minister has announced his intention to resign. Though he has not reported this on his frequently updated blog, he spoke to media outlets yesterday and today.
Egypt's prime minister, Ahmed Shafiq, resigned yesterday, and his replacement, Essam Sharaf, has been asked by the army to form a caretaker cabinet. "If the government will ask me again, I will not accept this job," Hawass told the New York Times yesterday. Today he said to CNN that the police have been unable to protect Egypt's cultural heritage and that his resignation "is a protest, really, that not enough can be done now to protect these sites and treasures."
Zahi Hawass, minister of state for antiquities, has warned he will resign if asked to hold Egypt’s antiquities portfolio in the new cabinet led by Prime Minister Essam Sharaf.
Hawass told Ahram Online that his decision was taken following the failure of police to protect Egypt’s antiquities and archaeological sites.
“I cannot be the protector of Egypt’s antiquities when they are subjected to looting like that because of the police's absence,” Hawass told Ahram online.
At the footsteps of the Great Pyramid in Giza, in the garden of the Egyptian Museum in Tahrir, and before the façade of Luxor and Karnak temples, hundreds of protestors gathered asking for the continuation of Zahi Hawass in his current post as minister of state for antiquities affairs.
Yesterday Hawass warned that he will resign if asked to hold the antiquities portfolio in Essam Sharaf’s cabinet, due to police failure to protect Egypt’s antiquities. He said he could not be the protector of Egypt’s antiquities when the police remain absent. Last week, police failed to protect several antiquities and archaeological sites.
Ali El-Asfar, head of the Giza Plateau, called on Hawass to reconsider his decision, saying “Hawass is the only person that could do something positive for archaeology, through his ability to hold responsibility and his network connections.”
Mostafa Waziri, head of antiquities on Luxor’s West Bank, told Ahram Online that Hawass is very capable. During his tenure as secretary general of the Supreme Council of Antiquities (SCA), which commenced in 2002, Hawass did a lot not only for archaeology but for archaeologists as well.